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iOS Grid 2 · founder seats open

Join before the app exists.

Pay once for a square and you're part of every app in the club — past, present and future. Every grid guarantees one app, often more. Vote on what gets built, follow production and try it first.

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  1. VotePick which app gets built
  2. Watch it get built
  3. Try it first
  4. Founders vote, follow production and get beta priority.
An app developers' club · win, win, win

Three seats at the table. Everyone wins.

BeforeTheApp is an app developers' club. Founders fund and shape the apps, supporters back the grid they believe in, developers get paid to build them. Everyone puts something in, and everyone gets something real back: nobody walks away feeling their money or their work went unanswered.

Founders

You fund it, you shape it, you keep it.

You put in
One square in a grid, paid once.
You get back
  • A vote on what gets built, and a real say while it's built: feedback, polls, early betas.
  • Every app the club ever makes, not just your grid's: premium access, member prices or offer codes, delivered through the App Store.
  • Your name on the grid for as long as the club runs. With a 2×2 or 3×3, your image and link too, in the block spotlight.
Why you're here
Earlier grids cost less, and every one of them gets the whole club.
Take a square

Supporters

Back the apps of one grid, from $9.

You put in
One seat in a single grid's supporter circle.
You get back
  • What each of that grid's apps grants its supporters, app by app: benefits and, where offered, a voice in its decisions.
  • The updates and production log of the apps you backed.
  • An upgrade path: your seat counts toward a founder square of the club.
Why you're here
The lightest way in: back exactly the apps you believe in.
See supporter seats

Developers

Get paid to build, and keep getting paid.

You put in
Your idea and your craft.
You get back
  • Real demand before you write a line: founders vote first, then test your betas.
  • A share of your grid's sales, and an app that keeps earning as the club grows.
  • Store revenue as your agreement says. Studio shows every cent earned and what's still to come.
Why you're here
The work is funded up front, by people who asked for it.
Build with us
Why join · One payment

One square. Every app in the club.

A one-time payment, no subscription. Your founder square covers the apps shipping now, the ones already out and every app the club builds after you.

The deal

Pay once. Be part of every app.

Pay once and join the making of every app in the club — the ones shipping now, the ones already out and every one that comes after — plus every app's member benefit.

  • One app guaranteed, every grid

    Often more: a grid can ship a surprise second or third app, and sometimes all three voted candidates get built. How many is our call as the team running the club.

  • Every app, before and after you

    Past, current and future apps in your club: roadmap, votes, requests and beta priority for all of them.

  • Every app's member benefit

    Every app's member benefit is yours too: premium access, a member price or an offer code, set per app and delivered in the app through the App Store's own offer codes and pricing.

iOS and Mac are separate clubs; a membership covers every app in the club you join.

Two separate clubs

Choose your track.

iOS and Mac grow independently: separate grids, separate prices, separate votes. Buying one never unlocks the other. Inside each, category clubs focus on one kind of app.

The clubs

Every club, one swipe away.

iOS, Mac and the category clubs inside them. Each one has its own grid, founders, votes and apps. Pick the one that builds what you'd use.

All clubs
The candidate pool

Three feasible ideas. You pick the first.

Each candidate has a scope, a rough cost, a responsible developer partner and an honest confidence level. The winner is the grid's guaranteed app — and we may decide to build the other two as well.

Founder vote closes October 12. The winner is built first; the other two stay in the pool.

Candidate 02

WeatherBee

a weather app

Responsible partner
Developer One · iOS Developer
Target window
If selected, closed beta:
Estimate confidence
Low confidence
Founders vote on thisDetails
Candidate 03

FitBee

A Fitness App

Responsible partner
Developer One · iOS Developer
Target window
If selected, closed beta:
Estimate confidence
High confidence
Founders vote on thisDetails
Candidate 04

Year 1980

Historical Tech News

Responsible partner
Arman Acar · Senior iOS Developer
Target window
If selected, closed beta:
Estimate confidence
Low confidence
Founders vote on thisDetails
Candidate 04

MoneyBee

personal finance app

Responsible partner
Developer One · iOS Developer
Target window
If selected, closed beta:
Estimate confidence
Medium confidence
Founders vote on thisDetails
Candidate 05

Margins

Turn the lines you underline into lasting memory.

Responsible partner
Developer One · iOS Developer
Target window
If selected, closed beta:
Estimate confidence
Medium confidence
Founders vote on thisDetails
How it works

From square to shipped app.

Four steps, and the first one works the moment your payment is confirmed.

  1. Step 1

    Take a square

    Choose a 1×1, 2×2 or 3×3 slot on the 16×16 founder grid. One-time payment, one membership, one vote — whatever the size.

  2. Step 2

    Vote on what gets built

    Three feasible candidates, each with a responsible developer partner. Then names, icons, screens and feature priorities.

  3. Step 3

    Watch it get made

    Weekly member updates, a detailed roadmap with estimate history, and decisions with their reasoning. Delays stay visible.

  4. Step 4

    Try it first

    When a real prototype or closed beta exists, founders are invited with priority — for every app in the club, and every app's member benefit is yours.

What you actually get

Founder vs Supporter, plainly.

A founder joins the whole club: every app, before and after. A supporter joins one grid for less: its app vote and whatever each of its apps grants supporters.

  • Membership is not equity, revenue share or an investment.
  • AI credits and usage-based services are never included; they are priced separately.
  • One app per grid is guaranteed; how many more ship is the team's call. Undecided benefit types read “to be announced”.
  • Supporters are never called founders; each app lists what it grants them before you buy, and a list can only grow.
Rights comparison between a founder square and a supporter seat
Right Founder Supporter
Apps coveredYesEvery app of the club, past and futurePartialThis grid's apps only
Vote on which app a grid buildsYesEvery gridPartialThis grid
Votes on features, names, icons and screensYes1 vote per pollPartialWhere the app grants it
Submit ideas and feature requestsYesPartialWhere the app grants it
Detailed roadmap, production log and decision reasoningYesPartialThis grid's apps, where granted
Prototype, closed beta and early release invitesYesPriority, when readyPartialAfter founders, where granted
Member benefit of every appYesPartialA supporter benefit, if an app offers one
Public profile on the gridYes1×1, 2×2 or 3×3; images on blocksYesA 1×1 seat: name and colour
At least one guaranteed app per gridYesYes
One-time payment, never re-chargedYesYes
Transparent pricing

Earlier costs less. That’s the whole trick.

Every grid costs more than the one before, and inside a grid 2×2 and 3×3 blocks cost more with every 10% sold. Everyone ends up with every app and every app's benefit; the only things that change are when you join and what you pay. Prices never go down.

1×1

P = grid price

2×2 · your image

4 · P · M

3×3 · your image

9 · P · M

Supporter seat

same price every grid

Step 1 · Which grid are you joining?

Grid 2 · $19 per square

90% less than Grid 20 for the exact same thing: every app in the club and every app's benefit.

Grids that haven't opened show planned prices, which can still change before they open. A grid's price is fixed the moment it opens, and a later grid never costs less than an earlier one.

Step 2 · How full is the grid?
0/ 256 cells paid0%
0| a 2×2 splits | a 3×3 too256
Step 3 · The math, live
  • 1×1Grid 2 price=$19
  • 2×24 ×$19××1.2=$91.20
  • 3×39 ×$19××1.2=$205.20

26 more paid cells until ×1.3, when one unsold 2×2 splits into singles. Waiting risks the blocks selling or splitting first; paid prices are never re-priced.

Block multiplier vs. fill● 2×2 splits● 3×3 too
0 cells×1.2 → ×2.0, prices only rise256
The grid, filling upbig blocks show their live multiplier

Tinted singles were a block that split before anyone bought it.

Example prices by grid
Grid1×12×2 first2×2 last3×3 first3×3 lastSupporter
1$9$43.20$72$97.20$153.90$9
10planned$99$475.20$792$1,069.20$1,692.90$9
20planned$199$955.20$1,592$2,149.20$3,402.90$9

USD list prices. Each grid publishes its own prices; planned prices can change until the grid opens, then they are fixed, and a later grid never costs less than an earlier one. Tax and payment fees calculated separately. Your price is locked at checkout for 30 minutes and never re-priced afterwards. Block multipliers rise from ×1.2 to ×2.0, one step for every 10% sold: at each step one unsold 2×2 splits into four singles, and at ×1.4, ×1.6, ×1.8 and ×2.0 one unsold 3×3 into nine. “Last” is the highest price before the final split of that size.

Built in the open

Real people. Real progress. Delays included.

A public summary at least every two weeks; weekly detail for founders. Old estimates are never deleted.

Latest public updates

    Full roadmap & estimate history

    Developer partners

    Developer One

    iOS Developer

    Tallinn

    Mobile App Developer

    • SwiftUI

    MacOS App Developer

    Software Developer

    Tallinn

    Senior MacOS App Developer

    • SwiftUI

    Arman Acar

    Senior iOS Developer

    Amsterdam

    Best Youtuber who says "year 1980"

    • SwiftUI

    Selçuk Ermaya

    Her Tür Developer

    Konya

    test test test

    • C#

    “Partner” describes a production role. Legal status, equity and revenue terms live in written partner agreements.

    The founder wall

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    Profiles appear only after moderation. A square is visibility, not a traffic guarantee.

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      Solopreneur

      iOS · 1×1
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      Solopreneur

      iOS · 1×1

    iOS block founders

    This spot is for the founders who back a grid with a block.

    A 2×2 or 3×3 puts your image, your name and your link here and on the grid, for as long as the club runs.

    See the blocks on the grid

    Mac block founders

    This spot is for the founders who back a grid with a block.

    A 2×2 or 3×3 puts your image, your name and your link here and on the grid, for as long as the club runs.

    See the blocks on the grid

    Build apps? Build them here.

    Founders vote before you write code, test it first, and fund the club. Developer partners earn from their app's store sales and from the club.

    For developers
    Straight answers

    Questions worth asking.

    Grid 2 is open

    Your square is waiting.

    From $19, one time. Your founder space opens the moment payment is confirmed.